Aestheticism and vulgarity........

3^rd July 08, Q n A at rediff.com was follows.  Some of the answers have you in splits. The nine comments are reproduced below as it is!

Q. How do you differentiate the thin line between aestheticism and vulgarity?

1. If a person does not have belief in the concept of God he is aesthist. Vulgarity is obviously what is equalent to improper decorum or manifestation of indecency. These two are different things.
For instance MF Hussain paiting hindu gods and godesses in a provocative indecent manner is vulgarity. He claims that he's got freedom of ex-pression - but even that is biased because he doesnt do the same to muslim or christian gods, people or characters - he is not an aesthist. He has some religious sentiments. Ultimately he is Chauvinistic. Pls see dictionary to see the meainign of the word 'chauvenistic' so you can also learn a new word which is also connected.

(Guess  our friend should have first referred to a dictionary the two words aesthetics and atheists before asking us to check up the word 'chauvinistic'  and learn a new word!!  * keeps wondering how chauvinistic, atheist and Vulgarity are connected *)

2.  If lower belt portion of female sideways----aesthetisim
if lower belt portion of female moves back and forth---vulgarity

(Aha..  what a ‘brief’ way of presenting! I wonder how our friend would define aestheticism and vulgarity with reference to a male!! )

3.  It is purely the prerogative of the creator. The oserver might see it with his own perspective, but it's the perpetrator's last laugh.

The ‘creator’ created in all aestheticism, the ‘created’ changed his perspective after he bit the apple, and the ‘perpetrator’ (devil) had the last laugh………. as vulgarity was born!

4.  The difference is not a thin line but a very thick one surely human beings have a sense of discrimination which they can use to know the difference.

How thick? Can the line be measured by a screwed mind…oops…. Screw gauge or a Vernier Call hippers(calipers)?

5.  Objects and all their collective and/or complex manifestations, whether living or not, have no purpose behind their existence. Human beings talk about temporal and long run objectives to satisfy their intellect, otherwise they too are complex adaptive systems, biologically and socially, having no predetermined objectives behind their existence. Superiority of human beings is contained in their plans by which they try to device methods for their own well-being.
Some objects and events have significant impact up on the intellect of human beings. These things go in favor or against their plans for progress. If a thing inspires something undesirable from the perspective of that plan, it is vulgar. If it is good as such, it is aesthetic.
So, the point is in what results from the impression of a thing. The result cannot be definitely predicted because we cannot understand the complexity of human beings - either as biological individual or as social collective. Thus, a line cannot be drawnThus, a line cannot be drawn in between aestheticism and vulgarity although there is a line.
Preferences of an individual are designed by his/her past and gene. When a person identifies something as aesthetic or vulgar, it is judged by that upbringing and gene. Every person acts in a sphere of bounded rationality. In that space, he/she rarely feels any obligation to the social collective he/she belongs to. Besides he/she cannot pursue the complexity in which he/she lives. As a result, individual preference may or may not resemble to what is socially desirable.
CONCLUSION: Individuals draw lines in their own ways, which are naturally different. The socially desirable line can be drawn only after the impact can be perfectly predicted. But such an exercise is impossible due to the complexity of the social whole. So, such line cannot be drawn socially although some definite social line exists. The social line is built up on the basis of the plan for progress devised by the human beings. The plan is an invention of the human beings up on which they judge what is good and what is bad. The plan is based on objectives which the human beings prepare. As such, human beings are not born to serve any objective. And so, if human beings stop inventing objectives and plans, there will not be anything aesthetic or vulgar. close

YAWNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!! I am drawing the shortest line to my bed…

6. Aestheticism It is a doctorine that beauty is the basic principle frm which all other principles, especially oral ones are derived. where as Vulgarity is sexual display in bad taste in general. Hence we can safely say, that models who display fashions or even other things that are used on body maybe aestheticst where as people who do vulgar display are purily for sexual satisfaction.

Doctrine, Oral huh  am safely skipping reading this comment!

7.  Aesthetically vulgar. Vulgarly aesthetic. Add the letters, "l" and "y"

Yes when the eye(s) see and the why(s) answer, you know the difference, not by adding I and Y!!

8.  Eat healthy and stay healthy.

Now whats eating and healthy got to do with aesthetic and vulgar?

9.  Since the opinion whether a piece of art or culture is aesthetic or vulgar depends upon the opinion holder, which in this democratic country everyone has a right to the opinions vary. And the variance is much more pronounced as the dividing line in some cases is very thin and hence a lot of people may not be able to see or differentiate it and cross it either way. Just hope for the best that you are not a victim of it !

A democratic country and opinions galore on aestheticism and vulgarity.  I am only a victim of reading these hilarious comments at rediff at my own peril ………..God help!!